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Now how will NASCAR CEO Brian France address the controversy of 'secret' penalties?

  NASCAR's Brian France: the sport's point man...and now on the hot seat with his 'secret' penalties (Photo: Getty Images for NASCAR)

   By Mike Mulhern

   POCONO, Pa.
   As a former Marine, word of NASCAR's secret policy of fining drivers as much as $50,000 for comments they dislike like hit me like a punch in the gut.
   I've been covering this sport fulltime for 30 years now, from Bill France Jr.'s early days running the then Grand National series, and then the Winston Cup series, and the Nextel Cup series, and now the Sprint Cup series....and I can't remember ever being this disappointed in Daytona's leadership.
   Good Americans have been fighting and dying in Afghanistan and Iraq to protect our freedoms....some freedoms that NASCAR executives apparently now consider expendable.
   And all that pre-race flag waving.....
   It should make me very angry, to know now that NASCAR indeed does try to censor this sport...and that NASCAR officials have lied about it.
   But really it just makes me sad.
   We can all grouse with NASCAR about this call and that call, late cautions, questionable cautions, pit road speeding...and we can complain about moving the Southern 500 to Los Angeles, and losing the Rockingham and Wilkesboro tracks...and we can gripe about that car-of-tomorrow and its myriad handling issues and lack of downforce...and we've all done that over the years. Sometimes NASCAR listens and reacts, sometimes it just listens.
   Now apparently it doesn't even want to listen to some things.
   However drivers, crew chiefs, owners, journalists, anyone in the sport has a right – maybe even a duty – to weigh in on some of these issues from time to time.
   Maybe we can't any more.
   Maybe criticism of NASCAR is now verboten. Maybe that's the message NASCAR is trying to send.
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  Brian France made an impassioned plea for newspapers to hold onto their NASCAR beat journalists during the AP Sports Editors 2008 convention. (Photo:Getty Images for NASCAR)

   Maybe engine men will be secretly fined or penalized if they say something NASCAR doesn't like.
   Maybe crew chiefs will be secretly fined or penalized if they say something NASCAR doesn't like.
   Maybe team owners will be secretly fined or penalized if they say something NASCAR doesn't like.
   Maybe journalists will be secretly fined or penalized if they write or say something on the air NASCAR doesn't like.
   Looks like anyone who dares to criticize NASCAR now will have to risk paying a high price.
   So looks like we'll be getting a lot more plain vanillas.

   Mike Helton, the NASCAR president, used to talk of NASCAR's 'big shoulders,' in being able to take the heat.
   Guess those shoulders aren't quite that strong any more.

   Some background here:
   NASCAR's Brian France, since taking over the reins of the sport eight years ago, has done some very good things, helping expand its scope and reach, looking to Mexico City and Montreal, looking to leverage the sport in many business areas, making a lot of things happen. Pro-active rather than reactive.
   Yes, he does go over the line at times. The forest sometimes gets missed for all the trees. And he has been heatedly criticized for some decisions.
   All in all he's put a solid, competent staff on the front lines, people who work out in the field and not just in some office shuffling papers.
   However when it comes to being the public face of this sport, there is something lacking: image.
   -- France himself comes across publicly as too officious, too stiff, too imperial....and not very user-friendly.
   -- Helton, admittedly in a tough job, comes across as too distant, too unapproachable...and not very user-friendly either.
   -- Lesa France Kennedy, who as head of the family's empire race tracks is one of the country's top female sports executives, comes across as too shy, too reticent to take the point in the public spotlight.
   This sport needs a popular, enthusiastic, personable point-man...someone who can galvanize opinion in his direction...much as Bruton Smith and Humpy Wheeler have done, and the late RJR sports execs T. Wayne Robertson and Ralph Seagraves.
   However to put this current issue in stark, blunt terms, NASCAR lied to us in January when officials said they wanted drivers to feel freer to express their emotions and show their personalities.
   Express yourself, NASCAR said in January it was telling drivers.   Now we find out that wasn't really the truth at all.
   It's hypocrisy.
   Freedom of speech: that'll cost you $50,000 or so, please. (Is there even a list of banned subjects for drivers to bone up on?)
   Now wreck a man deliberately, a couple of times even, and that's only $25,000. But say something that Daytona doesn't like.....

   The bottom line here:
   NASCAR's credibility has just taken a hard hit.
   Why should any fan believe anything a driver says now -- knowing he's under threat of some secret NASCAR punishment.
   Likewise, why should any fan believe anything any of NASCAR's electronic TV/internet 'partners' say now, when maybe they or their network might be secretly fined or penalized for whatever NASCAR executives don't like? (Or maybe they will simply 'self-police' themselves and not even raise issues that they – as journalists – should be raising: for example, how will ESPN handle this controversy here during this weekend's telecasts? Already ESPN reporters acting like NASCAR's water-carriers are pooh-poohing the whole thing as a tempest in a teapot.)
   Maybe the National Motorsports Press Association should weigh in with an official stance of its own. But then that's the same organization that has already kowtowed to NASCAR over the Charlotte Hall of Fame and NASCAR's pointed rejection of the NMPA's own Hall of Famers inducted since 1965 at Darlington Raceway. Maybe they're too afraid of NASCAR pulling their credentials.

   Where's NASCAR's honest transparency in all this anyway? Make a rule, let it be freely and publicly debated.
   Who knows what other secret punishment is being doled out behind NASCAR's closed doors.
   When NASCAR PR flacks say after a race that 'All cars passed inspection,' why should anyone now believe that?
   When engine men say NASCAR's push toward fuel injection is a good idea (when everyone realizes that's an expensive project, at a time when the whole economy still is in the doldrums), why should anyone do anything but take that with a grain of salt?
   When team owners say the idea of a one-race winner-take-all championship is just fine, why should anyone believe that that is how they truly feel?

   In short, NASCAR executives, in one hugely misguided move, have raised the cloud of credibility over many things in this sport.
   That's not only sad, that's also bad business. There are enough skeptical fans, and ex-fans, out there right now.
   What's next? Fines for the media? Kyle Petty and Jimmy Spencer will likely be at the head of that line. Come to think of it, why did Spencer lose that TV gig he had anyway? A call from NASCAR?
   All this raised the question of what else NASCAR might be doing in secret?
   How do we know if what we see each Sunday out on the track isn't also subject to some secret penalties?
   NASCAR may even now want to lay blame for that car-of-tomorrow debacle on Kyle Busch's outburst at Bristol back in 2007, when drivers were railing about how difficult the new car was to drive...when NASCAR said 'Shut up and drive.'
   Let's see, if we fine, say, Denny Hamlin $50,000 for complaining about late-race cautions, and fine, say, Ryan Newman, for criticizing safety issues, that's going to put more fans in the grandstands and more eyeballs on NASCAR TV?
   Just as NASCAR's Brian France appeared to be getting this train on the right track, with good moves like the double-file restarts and triple Green-White-Checkereds, with a lot of hot action on the track -- the best racing in years -- and with the promise of more intriguing changes to come...suddenly the sport gets hit with this.
   Yes, it's NASCAR's sandbox, so maybe drivers should just shut up and drive....
   But when you see the U.S. Air Force pre-race flyover Sunday, remember this is still America, not some police state.
   ...and we shouldn't have to lock the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in our car's glovebox whenever we drive through the tunnel into the NASCAR garage.

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    Might be interesting to know how NASCAR legends Junior Johnson (far right) and Richard Petty (near right, with Brian France near left and Lesa France Kennedy far left) might have reacted to such 'secret' penalties for speaking their minds. Don't think they were too shy about arguing with NASCAR when they felt it was time. (Photo: Getty Images for NASCAR)


Mike, THANK YOU for speaking

Mike, THANK YOU for speaking up for the integrity of the sport. I'm fed up with Nascar trying mask everything to protect the "integrity of the sport." How can we the fans be expected to believe in everything the organization stands for, if they themselves flip-flop on every issue. Why doesn't Brian France come right out and say..."we are tweaking the current Chase format because we at Nascar are tired of Jimmie Johnson running away with the championship ever year." If they were honest they would put it out there, instead of glossing over the subject. Jimmie Johnson makes an excellent ambassador to the sport, he's a role model for every young fan out there who has dreams of becoming a pro athlete whether racing or any other sport. I have no respect for Brian France, because in order for me to give you respect you have to earn it. He can't operate this sport, he doesn't care about the drivers, etc. the only thing he sees in front of his eyes is the word "profit." I wouldn't trust this guy with a pet boa constrictor, even though I can't tolerate snakes. He should be removed from his throne because things in Nascar are heating up and it could get very prickly for him sitting at the top. Remember what happened to Humpty-Dumpty!!!!

Brian has a good heart, i

Brian has a good heart, i still believe. he's just listening to the wrong people. ask lesa what she wants -- she's the one who has to put butts in the seats. the car-of-tomorrow was wrong; good idea, but terrible execution. and the car-of-tomorrow for nationwide, wrong timing. jimmie is great, a great driver, a great spokesman, just bad marketing. how can you not market a great driver and a great guy like that? nascar just has bad marketing advice.
and brian is, i feel, a good guy at heart, he just cant concede when something isnt working.
i didnt like the chase; not sure i like it now, but i am trying to understand it....it should work, but it doesnt. give us some ideas and we'll pass them on to brian.

You maybe right about Brian.

You maybe right about Brian. Hell, I don't know him personally, but the moves he's makin' may not be from his heart or mind, but from the TV Execs that have dumped BILLIONS into NASCAR and are trying to recoup from every aspect of the show.

Maybe it's time for Brian to say, "Dammit! Enuff! I'm not going to take this anymore!!!!". He'll start reading mikemulhern.net Take heed to your articles, the comments that we, "ahem", racin' enthoooosiast say, as we educated the public and ourselves to make racin' better.

Sounds like a good ID, don'tcha think?

I am awaiting a letter in the

I am awaiting a letter in the mail levying a NASCAR fine on me for failing to attend enough events and failing to watch enough NASCAR on television. How much more ridiculous will things become? Dayyum.

Great article Mike! The

Great article Mike! The France family and it's cronies are starting to turn the fan beloved NASCAR NATION into a COMMIE NATION. BUT! as long as THE FRANCES are seeing profits (like ANONYMOUS has said), even just a little, the wheel will keep on turning as is. When you really think about it RCR, EGR, HMS, JGR, ROUSH, PENSKE, MWR, RPM and others should learn to "MAN" up and play hardball with NASCAR. They're NOT like unionized pro sports, they can "walk" at any given time from any event. Make demands or else. The fans may get pissed off, but guess what? They ain't coming to the races anyway!

The best way to really put NASCAR on its ass is a hostile takeover of ISC. That way you're controlling the real estate/tracks compete on. Just Daytona alone, the crown jewel, is worth all the marble$. Think the King might have the biz cards of some of them Saudis?

i'm afraid those car owners

i'm afraid those car owners are all too scared. and bruton smith now has his second vegas date and kentucky apparently, so why should he rock the boat.....nobody is paying attention to the fans....and from what i've seen this year, especially at indianapolisl, they are none too happy.

Bottom line - Why is NSACAR

Bottom line - Why is NSACAR even tinkering with the race, format, etc.? TV ratings. NASCAR will never compete with Pro Football, NASCAR's Holy Grail. Once they realize that, they can focus on the basics - controversy = TV ratings.

Credibility? This is a sanctioning body that makes up rules on the fly, creates "cautions" to screw around with the race results (create "drama"). Credibility? Please. How were ratings before the "Chase." They can't even do what is in their best interest, let alone, develop or maintain credibility. If Cola companies can market flavored sugar water, why can NASCAR market the best drivers in the world? Answer - They don't know how.

Take a lesson from the best, "Professional Wrestling". Yes, they are the best at base entertainment, they foster an environment of controversy, Black Hat vs. White Hat, feuding with the sanctioning body and other actions that create controversy and viewership. NASCAR is certainly no better than professional wrestling. Indeed, they could learn from their marketing techniques.

As for racing, I have given up. NASCAR has screwed up for the last time in my opinion. They will not "build" back any base and their "leadership" could learn from the old maxim, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Thanks for the great article and hang in there - I'll keep reading but I have given up watching FranceCar.....

Rock on. Oh! I forgot. They got rid of the Rock!

don't give up just yet.

don't give up just yet. you're getting their attention, and from what i read into all this nascar, yes, i sense they do pay attention. they're making mistakes, big mistakes in my opinion, but i still believe -- call me naive -- they still want to try to do the right thing, if they can just figure it out. i'm just worried they're not seeing reality, they're still seeing only what they want to see. but, believe me, they do listen to you. they might not hear everything correctly, but they're listening. i just wish they weren't so hard-headed about things. it's not rocket science. whatever the fans want, give it to them. that's pretty simple. but i would like see some racing back at the rock. two races in kansas city, and only one in los angeles? that's not very bright, IMHO. now i like KC, great town and all...but LA...the bottom line is nascar is looking for advice; give 'em some. give me a cup schedule you think makes sense, and i'll give it to them.....

F Nascar. I've followed the

F Nascar.

I've followed the sport since '85...and this takes the cake.

Oh, I get NASCAR's position on this....other sports penalize folks financially for comments they make on officiating, etc. so we should to.

But the difference here is everyone in other sports knows upfront that they will get penalized for "conduct unbecoming of the sport" or whatever.

Wonder how much ole' Tony has donated to the France coffers (or whatever charity they roll the money over to) over the years?

And they want to be taken seriously.....hell, F1 looks more competent....

(sitting here thinking that the execs in the NFL are probably peeing in their pants with laughter over how NASCAR is run.....)

The NFL, which opens play

The NFL, which opens play next week, is seeing great crowds and great tv ratings. what is the nfl doing right that nascar should be doing too? I'm not sure that secret $50,000 penalties on drivers is going to put more fans in the stands or more butts in front TV sets.

Couple thoughts on this, it

Couple thoughts on this, it ruins the credibility of the sport if their hiding these penalties what other things are they hiding are there penalties in other areas we don't know about? Two this only isolates NASCAR more from the outrage that the drivers, crew members and certainly the fans are being to feel, and moves them further away from the common man that is their target audience and has been their loyal customer for so many years and moves them closer to the ivory tower. Three I think this highlights one of the differences the Bill Frances and Lesa and Bran, both of the Bills worked for what they got Big Bill built NASCAR from the ground up and the history of little Bill doing every ob in NASCAR from usher and concessions stands to driving bulldozers building Talladega and Daytona is well know I don't see that in the currant generation. And finally as mush as I hate to bring up the point that has been used with so many other things, but this never would have happened if Dale Earnhardt were with us today, he was a driver who cared for the sport and every one knew it, maybe even more importantly when he talked NASCAR listened, in part because they had weather they were willing to admit it or not they needed him and they knew it if he left so did a lot of fans. Maybe part of the sports success that tehre are now so many household names and super stars that it is not a big deal to lose one had hurt it in the long run. ANy how after the Indy league call I am sure it's only a matter of time before Brian Barnhar is making calls for NASCAR.

i agree. nascar shouldn't

i agree. nascar shouldn't have to hide things like this. if they want to penalize some one for something, be man enough to stand up and say what you're doing. and let the arguments play out. to do it in secret, that's unfair to the fans.
and dale: i remember well when he took umbrage at that 5-and-5 rule (aerodynamics) and said 'bill france would be rolling over in his grave if he saw this.' That might cost him $50,000 today.
sometimes i wonder if the current administration has a feel for the sport, or a love of the sport, as billy france jr and dale sr. did. today it seems like just so much business. i remember when richard petty would sit on pit wall for hours after a race signing autographs for fans. today drivers have getaway cars or helicopters to get them home as fast as possible.

Mike, for once I agree with

Mike, for once I agree with Nascar- You couldn't get away with publicly dissing your employer, nor product, without consequences,in any job in the country. Publicly is the key word here. They can, and should pitch a royal one in private about anything in 'the product' they disagree about. BUT it should be in private. You can't sell a product if the people who produce it say it's junk.

I understand exactly where

I understand exactly where you're coming from....and maybe you're right. But when NASCAR says one thing in public but then does something else in private, i worry about what else they're not telling the truth about. I've been chewed out in private by the billy jr for stuff i've written, and i understood where he was coming from, even if i disagreed.
one problem in this situation, though, IMHO, is that nascar wants to try to blame the media for not being 'positive' enough. Hey, when nascar does something good, i'm right there to say so. but it's not my responsibility to try to gloss over things they do that i feel are wrong. and i find it difficult to buy the argument that nascar wants to make that the media is to blame for poor crowds and weak tv ratings. I would first look in the mirror......
things started going south when they dropped rockingham and darlington and jumped out to LA with a second race, and started ignoring the hardcore fan base. and the car-of-tomorrow, sorry, it was a good idea, but not well executed, and crew chiefs and car owners tried to tell nascar, but nascar said shut up and race it. NASCAR fans -- as Tony Stewart himself has pointed out -- are not dumb. they can see through the hype.
and the media this year has -- rightly -- praised the action on the track to high heaven. It's some of the best racing i've ever seen. but still the ratings aren't there. so there must be something more at issue here. any ideas?
thanks for commenting. keep writing. we're all listening.

Couldn't have said it better

Couldn't have said it better myself!

When an organization starts to secretly silence it's critics, the same critics that depend on participation in your "sport" for a paycheck, you can no longer trust comments from those participants. There is no way to know the "truth" from them saying what will keep them employed.

Dave in Ohio

i agree. intimidation is a

i agree. intimidation is a poor way to do business. and secrecy like this only raises more issues of credibility. like i asked kevin harvick: "with secret penalties hanging over everyone's heads, why should we believe anyone in this sport any more?" His answer: "Good point....don't care."
To me, that speaks volumes....

Mike I've read your columns

Mike I've read your columns for years in the W-S paper and now the web site.Your insight on this sport and it's workings are uncanny. You have only scratched the tip of the Nascar iceburg.I worked as an offical on the cup series from 00 to 07. We were told numerous times not to speak with any media lest you be fired. You, my friend,were mentioned by name as being off limit and having read you for years prior I know why. You are always truthful and report the facts as you know them and let the chips fall where they may, if someone or something looks bad, so be it. Both Mr France and Mr Helton are unaproachable and imperial and don't mind letting the hired hands know it.The next time you can scan a race control at an event just wait until the race gets strung out,here comes the tower; turn 1 got any debris;turn 2 got any debris ? backstretch how 'bout you; "well tower I've got what looks like a hot dog wrapper on the apron--next word fron control: "put it out". It happens at almost every event.Main word here BOGUS. If it weren't for you exposing secret fines and penalties no one would know.And to agree with your point this casts a serious and dark cloud over Nascar's credibility.Thank you for your service to our country and thanks for the unbiased stories,keep digging and keep writing,excellent work.

i appreciate your comments.

i appreciate your comments. and i never really understood why nascar wouldnt let its officials talk to the media...that would be just good PR, I would think....nascar has been way too defensive about way too many things over the years, for no really good reason that i can see. i always thought the ideal nascar official was les richter -- big smile, good quotes, and friendly.
i'm trying to keep it all going here at mikemulhern.net, even if the powers-that-be getting irritated. NASCAR is its own worst enemy some times; they need to be more user friendly. the way i've always seen it, you talk nice with people as often as you can, so when the stuff hits the fan, you've got some people on your side, willing to take your point of view. drivers and crews and teams do that....so why not nascar?
thanks again. and keep writing.

Mike, Just saw you on Race

Mike, Just saw you on Race Line. Could not believe it. Someone in the media that actually says what they want without the fear of NASCAR. I am sick of NASCAR acting like they are more powerful than the USA. I remember when Dale Earnhardt was killed and there was no outside investigation. I stopped watching NASCAR when Toyota entered the picture. I remember the 70s and 80s when you could recognize the make of car by its looks, not decals. To me, NASCAR starting going down the tubes when Brian France took it over. His father must be turning over in his grave. What is this story about Brian France in legal trouble and he does not want any media in the court room when he goes to court? Why are the courts giving in to him? Thanks for letting me let some steam off. I do feel better now.

thank you...and i'm just

thank you...and i'm just trying to figure out what david poole would be saying in this situation. i try these days to put his thoughts, as i sense them, into some of my stuff, since he's not here to argue any more. since dale was killed nascar -- credit mike helton here -- has done a fantastic job on safety; but what about the three men who were killed the year before....slow on the switch, i'm afraid.
i agree we need to put more 'brand identity' into these cars, and with all the computer stuff we've got, and engineers, it can be done. heck, let 'em scream and shout a little bit about 'that guy's nose is better than mine;' it's good for the sport, i'd say.
Brian -- i've known him since that day at Atlanta back when he spilled the beans on the scoring dispute, Donnie over Richard, I think. but the more i know him, the less i know him, if you know what i mean. he's got a good heart, i do believe; and he's got a tough job too....but i want some more user-friendly personality there....

There are two issues jostling

There are two issues jostling together here.

The fines to Hamlin and Newman actually have some justification, in that Hamlin's assertion that races are rigged is indeed irresponsible, and also ignores the real issue, which is that the officiating tower indeed has too much control of the racing and it breeds bad calls and bad rules - even so, biases are not the same as rigging.

Newman was also wrong in apparently beeching about Talladega again because the worst tracks for driver danger are everywhere except Talladega, notably Charlotte's 20-plus years of brutal melees, Richmond's insane G-readings as seen in Jerry Nadeau's career-ending wreck (which shouldn't have surprised anyone who understood that the speeds given the small size and configuration of the track are well above reason), the nastiness of Texas since it opened (while not as bad lately the McDowell tumble and the melee this past April served as a reminder of what the place often is), Kansas and hard hits (such as Sterling Marlin's cracked vertebrae in his neck in 2002), Atlanta and Keselowski nearly hitting the frontstretch fencing (not to mention melees such as Micky Hudspeth tumbling and losing a hand, and Steve Grissom blowing open a concrete wall), and so forth. If anything they show why Talladega is restricted and why these other tracks should be restricted (when Greg Biffle popped off about Pocono, I doubt this crossed his mind).

The problem with the fines stems less from what the drivers said than from the burgeoning problem of Brian France's credibility as a NASCAR leader. What emerges most glaringly here is that Brian France seems in fundamental denial that the sport over which he presides is faltering and the changes he's brought to it are not only not working, they're only making things worse. I disagree that Brian France has brought expanded scope to the sport or leveraged it in several business areas - what he's mostly done is market NASCAR The Brand (most insultingly illustrated by the supremely arrogant and clumsily marketed NASCAR Day, the first and last time a sports sanctioning body congratulated itself by declaring its own holiday) and installed gimmicks ostensibly to help the sport grow but which have done nothing but drive off people who might be interested. NASCAR the term no longer is an acronym, it is a brand name and in mainstream sports it has become more of a pejorative than ever with fans more derided for "watching NASCAR" than even in the 1980s.

The laundry list of Brian France failures is the following - The Chase in particular and overemphasis on points structures that punish effort and reward mediocrity in general; The bastardization of downforce and tires and its inevitable endgame The COT (blame to John Darby is also warranted as he was front-man in this misbegotten campaign) with related failure in knuckling under on the roof blade aero package of 2000-1 (restored for BGN 2004-10); pushing NASCAR upon demographics (Los Angeles, New York City) that don't want it; the clumsy handling of speedway fratricide (here Bruton Smith warrants condemnation as well, not praise); the implosion of the sport's economics (related here has been denial of the needed revenue that rival tire companies Firestone and Hoosier can bring to the sport) and non-response to escalating team spending (here car owners also deserve condemnation as they have made no effort to cut their spending and their recent powwow on cutting costs displayed no serious effort in that direction); shrinking competitive depth, in lack of winning drivers, lack of winning teams, and lack of lead changes (other than the plate tracks, the one area NASCAR has gotten right).

Fining drivers for issuing criticisms is a radically mixed bag - if they're saying things that are not true then they deserve criticism, yet stifling such speech is never a comfortable area, and when it's about lashing out when you're Brian France and you're in denial about your sport's problems, then the problem lies with you, Brian France.

Loved the column, Mike. In

Loved the column, Mike. In reality, NASCAR has issued secret penalties and given drivers "the call" for years. The penalties weren't monetary fines, but either verbal spankings akin to the Days of Thunder scene or an extra scutinizing pre-race inspection that may fail a few times before passing in order to send a message. Usually that gets the job done without the need for the fine, and the driver certainly isn't going to mention it to the media for fear of further repercussions. The issuance of the monetary penalties just sheds a brighter light to what has been there all along. Brian France just isn't as good at being sneaky as his dad was.

Can we say PIT BULL, you guys

Can we say PIT BULL, you guys had the best show ever on Speed and then NASCAR had to stop it. I know that is what happened to Jimmy and soon probably Kyle as well. You are great and I've always enjoyed your columns and certainly miss The Winston Cup Preview. I KNOW this wouldn't have happened if T. Wayne was still around. WOULD LOVE to see him get in this year. He did as much for NASCAR as any of the France's ever thought about doing. Let us know if you are "secretely fined" and we will start a fund. No wonder NASCAR ratings and attendence sucks. Give em H___ Mike we love you!

Best NASCAR-related article I

Best NASCAR-related article I have ever read.
This expresses my thoughts 100%, I'm so disgusted by NASCAR excecutives sometimes, it hurts.

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